Debbie Weiss wrote a few articles about mature dating on her websites PS I Love You and The Hungover Widow. I have listed four of her articles further down.
“The Biggest Problem with Middle-Aged Dating: Living in the Past”
In this article, Weiss talked about the many men she dated at age fifty after her husband died. But “They acted as if they already knew nothing was going to work out…Most implied I was going to have to change to suit them…They didn’t even seem to want sex so much as they demanded I listen to their woes.” One guy only bought her a coffee and none for himself because of a past expensive girl friend who didn’t pay rent.
They didn’t ask questions about Weiss, but she “knew their full histories, families, financial, sometimes sexual. They saw only the past women who’d disappointed them. And they weren’t about to let that happen again…. Or the last woman who dumped him got tired of his coming over and bringing nothing, not love or even a shred of empathy or even, perhaps a dessert…. I better be available on demand. Hot tubbing at his home as a second date? He picked an expensive restaurant and wine for her to discover she would end up paying half for what she did not choose. She never saw them again and they [were] surprised.”
Categories of men:
- I’ve been fucked over by women.
- Wants someone to jump when he calls.
- Aging playboy who wants easy sex but regards it as personal growth.
- A man she just met online who wants her to come over tonight. “I just met you. That’s creepy.”
She made her dating profile very specific. She wanted a long-term, monogamous relationship. She wanted to be too much trouble for most people. “Revenge daters don’t want to try too hard. Limit your time with the toxically jaded.”
And yes, Weiss did [finally] find a man who asked her a lot of questions about herself. He read everything she’d written. He was happy to see her every time they met. For him, she was not the reincarnation of failures past.
My favorite paragraph from this article:
“Let’s employ Shoshin, the Zen Buddhist word for Beginner’s Mind. It means to approach a situation as if for the very first time, with humility for what we don’t know and no preconceptions about what will happen. We need to have hope that we will find love. Or at least people we enjoy spending time with.” (My sentiments exactly]
Sources:
The author of the four articles below, Debbie Wiess, found the right man for her on a dating site after six years. You’ll read about the kinds of guys she met along the way. She didn’t give up. There is hope in each of the articles. The theme of her The Hungover Widow website is “Offering empathy to those who find themselves alone at middle-age.”
“Overcoming the Bitterness That is Middle-Aged Dating, Or I Never Tried to Convince a Guy to Clean Out My Roof Gutters.” April 2021, PS I love you, https://psiloveyou.xyz
“On Dating at Middle Age: Where Are All the Grown-up Men? Or Why Do So Few Guys Clean Out Their Refrigerators?” Feb. 2021, PS I love you, https://psiloveyou.xyz
“The Biggest Problem with Middle-Aged Dating: Living in the Past”. April 29, 2020. The Hunger Over Widow, https://thehungoverwidow.com
“Why is Dating at Middle-Age so Hostile? It All Started on the Playground.” March 2021. PS I love you, https://psiloveyou.xyz.
Rosa’s Adventures in Paradise
I believe in dating and I am not bitter about it. I’m not looking for the “man of my dreams”, he doesn’t exist. I don’t want to put a spell on anyone, and Mr.-Right-Now is ok for now. I want adventure, fun and if it develops into anything more, so be it. But it will be a mutual decision.
I have been dating online for 2 years after divorcing an unfaithful husband of 16 years (that hurt), burying one boyfriend of 16 years, and letting another one go after 9 years. I have met some nice guys; however, I turn away those with whom I don’t have much in common: fishing, boating, surfing, swimming, skiing, farming, horseback riding, etc., (I’m a romantic bookworm) or who live too far away (more than 30 miles) from me. That’s not to say that I might never become interested in these things (after all, I got used to car travelling). I answer each man who contacts me and if he’s not the one I am looking for, I write a nice note of gratitude for his time, the reason, and my hope that he finds the one woman he is looking for. I usually get a nice response to that.
However, I found one man on the Ourtime.com dating site who liked to travel by car, which I thought was too much like camping, but I had a great time in the year and a half we were dating. We dated (went out) for a month before establishing ground rules about sex, etc. We made a Friends-With-Benefits agreement after a month because of both of our past baggage. We went to church together a few times, a comedy club, a few dances (he is an “expert” hand dancer), Montreal Jazz Festival to see George Benson, a resort near Disneyland, gathered shells on Myrtle Beach, etc. He was a great listener…we’d both talked for hours about the things that were important to each of us. And, we had a mutual parting which didn’t hurt a bit. He was a man I enjoyed being with and he liked me because of my independence. I’m not saying I would or would not do that again, but we had fun. I consider him a successful match-up.
On the BLK dating website, I met about 7 men who lived not too far from me, but they seemed not to have time to talk. I found a phone-only male friend on BLK a few months ago with whom I still talk daily. I dated another man on BLK who didn’t even make it two weeks. He was always wanting to rush everything. We did not make a connection. I’m still on BLK so maybe there’s still hope.
What I’ve found on dating sites:
- Men contacting me from hundreds of miles away. 35 men fit that category.
- Some men saying, they would move to where I am. Or they visit a relative near me on occasion or own property in the same city.
- Men who were too scruffy with hair protruding from their noses and floating all around their heads. I like a man who has his facial hair under control.
- While most men were pretty polite and patient, there were a couple of men who were bitchy and rude.
- Like in Debbie Wiess’s article above, I’ve also read contacts from men who obviously have been hurt—who demand “no baby mama drama,” “no loans”, “not a sugar daddy”, etc.). Luckily for me they lived too far away from me.
- In my life, I’ve dated men of different types: fat, thin, tall, short, black, white, same age and older.
- I like a man who likes to dance, but I’m no marathoner. Slow dance, hand dance, line dancing, etc., suits me fine.
On the subject of someone wanting to change you:
For example, Disney’s The Little Mermaid had to grow legs to be married to a prince. I prefer the movie Splash in which the man left his human life to be with the mermaid he loved under the sea. Also, in the movie The Shape of Water [spoiler alert] the creature took his love to the sea where she should have been anyway. Duh, she had gills and he had some terrifically sharp fingernails (probably great for catching their dinner instead of eating all those boiled eggs she used to feed him).
No, I’m not bitter, just adventurous and a hopeless romantic! And, I don’t have to “Sit Still, Look Pretty” (Daya).
Ellie Goulding’s “Love Me Like You Do” [picture Anastasia Steele’s first helicopter ride with Christian Grey]
Bebe Rexha and Florida Georgia Line’s “Meant to Be” [picture a waitress with a desire to become a singer and be loved]
Written by Rosa L. Griffin